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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 5th May 2016, 9:05 am | |
| Hmm. That wouldn't represent discoveries made "by its planet-hunting mission, the Kepler Space Telescope." _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 10th May 2016, 2:17 pm | |
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 10th May 2016, 5:11 pm | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 10th May 2016, 8:26 pm | |
| _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Stalker Jovian
Number of posts : 540 Age : 33 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-06-16
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 11th May 2016, 10:30 am | |
| The most interesting system is maybe Kepler-1229 b containing one 1.4 Rearth super-earth receiving half the earth's energy from his sun.
Here are some systems already known before
Kepler-1520 aka KIC 12557548, containing an evaporating mercury Kepler-974 aka KOI-1843 Kepler-1004 aka KOI-1894 Kepler-492 aka KOI-205 Kepler-1115 aka KOI-2138 containing one very long period planet and a third planet detected by TTV (no Kepler designation for this one) Kepler-1418 aka KOI-3049 A, part of a binary Kepler-539 aka KOI-372 Kepler-462 aka KOI-89 containing a second validated planet but without kepler designation _________________ | |
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 11th May 2016, 6:54 pm | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 12th May 2016, 4:37 pm | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 12th May 2016, 11:56 pm | |
| There's a handy table of new planets provided by the NASA Exoplanet Archive. For cataloguing purposes and updating my notes, I wanted to go through and make note of some systems that have alternate designations. Especially previously confirmed/validated KOI-# systems that have now been assigned Kepler-# designations by virtue of their recent validation. Stalker hit on some of them already. Why does Kepler-157 have two KOI-# designations? It's in ( Rowe 2014) as a validated planet as KOI-1737, but the NASA Exoplanet Archive doesn't have KOI-1737. SIMBAD thinks Kepler-157 = KOI-442. There's a similar problem for Kepler-317, which seems to be both KOI-1756 and KOI-1760. The following systems I've had in my notes as hosting planets but some of the planets in these systems are listed as being false positives. I don't know if it's because I'm a moron or if they've been determined to be false positives by Morton 2016. KOI-102, KOI-1119, KOI-1134, KOI-1231, KOI-1239, KOI-1271, KOI-1276, KOI-1316, KOI-1378, KOI-1408, KOI-1447, KOI-1639, KOI-1731, KOI-1747, KOI-1803, KOI-1944, KOI-2159, KOI-2188, KOI-2248, KOI-2671, KOI-376, KOI-379, KOI-414, KOI-489, KOI-549, KOI-989. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 13th May 2016, 12:58 pm | |
| - Sirius_Alpha wrote:
- Why does Kepler-157 have two KOI-# designations? It's in (Rowe 2014) as a validated planet as KOI-1737, but the NASA Exoplanet Archive doesn't have KOI-1737. SIMBAD thinks Kepler-157 = KOI-442.
There's a similar problem for Kepler-317, which seems to be both KOI-1756 and KOI-1760. The problem is already present in Rowe et al. (2014). I checked the paper, both KOI-442 and KOI-1737 are listed in table 2, both referring to KIC 3745690. Rowe et al. (2014) also give entries for both KOI-1756 and KOI-1760, again with the same KIC number (KIC 3967760). Interestingly the entries in table 3 list two candidates: - 442.01 = Kepler-157 c, 13.540500d
- 442.02 = Kepler-157 b, 1.732342d
while for KOI-1737 they list 3, and reverse the assignment of 01 and 02: - 1737.01, 1.732333d
- 1737.02, 13.540481d
- 1737.03, 7.025759d
This KOI-1737.03 seems to have become KOI-442.03 in the NASA Archive (it is also now designated Kepler-157 d). At least with KOI-1756=KOI-1760=Kepler-317, the assignments of .01 and .02 look to be the same candidates! | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 19th May 2016, 11:25 pm | |
| The long-period circumbinary planet system KOI-2939 is now designated Kepler-1647. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Daniel SuperEarth
Number of posts : 272 Registration date : 2009-11-14
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 2nd June 2016, 4:45 pm | |
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Edasich dK star
Number of posts : 2295 Location : Tau Ceti g - Mid Latitudes Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 3rd June 2016, 6:38 am | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 18th June 2016, 8:14 am | |
| Update on Kepler-108: the planets are likely in orbit around the secondary star Kepler-108 B, with a high mutual inclination between the two transiting planets (which suggests we have quite a bit of luck with our viewing angle on the system). Mills & Fabrycky "Kepler-108: A Mutually Inclined Giant Planet System" https://arxiv.org/abs/1606.04485 | |
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 29th June 2016, 9:38 am | |
| http://www.exoplanetscience.org/Abstract of : Exoplanets I: Davos Congress Center, Switzerland (3-8 July 2016) Density of 8.0 for K-20b ! and one more planet in the system... | |
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Shellface Neptune-Mass
Number of posts : 283 Location : g2 17.∞ 997 t Registration date : 2013-02-14
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 29th June 2016, 12:28 pm | |
| Good to see Kepler-20 getting some attention, it hasn't seen much since the confirmation papers.
Those figures compare rather well with the confirmation values: m = 8.7 +2.1-2.2 M⊕, r = 1.91 +0.12-0.21 R⊕, ρ = 6.5 +2.0-2.7 g/cm3. I would say that it's been fairly clear that b is dense, but the significance of this wasn't recognised back then because the terrestrial-gaseous transition was thought to be at 10 M⊕ or so.
It is quite interesting that there is another planet in the system, as it is now entirely packed within the orbit of d. g's period ratios with f and d are ~1.75 and ~2.26. There seem to be no resonances in this system whatsoever, which is unusual among the high-multiplicity Kepler systems. | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 29th June 2016, 5:40 pm | |
| What is the status of the packed planetary systems hypothesis these days? Could Kepler-20 "g" have been predicted from the system architecture? | |
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tommi59 Jovian
Number of posts : 596 Age : 46 Location : Baile Atha Cliath Registration date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 30th June 2016, 3:13 am | |
| Well this is the first non transiting planet found between 2 others which are transiting in the same system .First case when outer planet is transiting and inner to this one not .I am curious how many such cases will be found | |
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Shellface Neptune-Mass
Number of posts : 283 Location : g2 17.∞ 997 t Registration date : 2013-02-14
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 30th June 2016, 10:57 am | |
| - Quote :
- What is the status of the packed planetary systems hypothesis these days? Could Kepler-20 "g" have been predicted from the system architecture?
As I understand it, the idea that a planetary system has to be packed if there is free space has fallen out of favour (probably since the HD 74156 debacle), but the idea that a planet can exist in a stable region remains uncontested. So in this case, it would be valid to have suggested that a planet could exist between f and d, but this could not be used as evidence for said planet's existence. In short, packing is not predictive, only indicative. - Quote :
- Well this is the first non transiting planet found between 2 others which are transiting in the same system .First case when outer planet is transiting and inner to this one not .I am curious how many such cases will be found
Even at such modest periods, only a few degrees of misalignment would make a planet non-transiting. If the inclination distribution of a planetary system is similar to that of the solar system, a scenario like this is not unlikely. With the number of Kepler and K2 systems known I expect there are tens of such systems present at the least, but identifying them is not a simple endeavour. | |
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matthew27 Micrometeorite
Number of posts : 12 Registration date : 2015-02-09
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 8th July 2016, 11:27 pm | |
| What Kepler planet within your opinion is the most habitable planet discovered so far? Let say humans needed to find a planet fast and the kepler database was our list of choices. | |
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tommi59 Jovian
Number of posts : 596 Age : 46 Location : Baile Atha Cliath Registration date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 9th July 2016, 7:49 am | |
| K2-3 d (rather on or close to poles) only one we are almost sure based on current data is rocky, besides k 442 b and K 186 f k 62 f without mass measurement all very likely rocky | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 11th July 2016, 3:08 pm | |
| None of them are particularly promising prospects even if we could reach them, which we can't. If humanity gets into a situation where it needs a new planet, we're basically doomed as there is no way that anyone but a tiny fraction of the population will be able to leave this one, let alone travel to the next one. | |
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tommi59 Jovian
Number of posts : 596 Age : 46 Location : Baile Atha Cliath Registration date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 18th July 2016, 1:06 pm | |
| I just wonder how the most massive planet in kepler 20 system with period 34 days remained undetected by rv and planet d much lighter (7.5-9.5 earth mass) was? very weird and DO we have any arxiv pdf paper about kepler 20 g is not even in unconfirmed table | |
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 21st July 2016, 6:56 pm | |
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Shellface Neptune-Mass
Number of posts : 283 Location : g2 17.∞ 997 t Registration date : 2013-02-14
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 22nd July 2016, 10:57 pm | |
| The paper (to be published shortly). Kepler-80 (KOI-500) is a system which gained some early fame among the Kepler systems, but has certainly languished in terms of dynamical study. Based on this paper I would expect that the lack of attention was due to the sheer amount of processing power such a dynamically complex system demands, rather than negligence. And this was without considering transit durations! With density errors at ~15%, these are some of the most precise mass measurements for low-mass planets so far. The differences in density are striking, and they clearly show that masses cannot be linked to radii by any simple expression - a variety of different radii are possible for a certain mass, and vice-versa. Aside from Kepler-80, there are several systems dominated by resonances except for the innermost planet, which is decoupled from the rest; some examples are Kepler-32, Kepler-33 and Kepler-374. However, there are also several where the innermost planet fits in the resonant chain, e.g Kepler-84, Kepler-385, Kepler-444. These systems seem to overlap in parameter space, so it may be that some process causes this decoupling only under certain conditions. | |
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tommi59 Jovian
Number of posts : 596 Age : 46 Location : Baile Atha Cliath Registration date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Kepler News and Results (Thread 2) 23rd July 2016, 4:26 am | |
| Interesting system but density for planet e and others is counted wrong, for e mass 4.54 and radius 1.6 should be around 5.8g/cm3 (similar like HD 219134b) even for eccentric model should be around 5g/cm3. Nevertheless difference in density between planets b and e is rather caused by place where planets were created-planets d and e inside the snow line b and c outside as for example planet e is far too cool to loose any hydrogen atmosphere if it ever had (unlikely) Simply e acreted no or very small amount H,He in contrary to b.We have two planets straddling the line between rocky and gassy worlds with quite low incident flux. | |
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