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Borislav Jovian
Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2008-11-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 15th October 2010, 3:37 am | |
| - Maastrichian wrote:
- I'm wondering if perhaps we will know, one way or another, what can be found at Alpha Centauri within another year...?
I think after doubts about the Corot-7b, Glize-436c, Glize-581g such a discovery will be published only after a very thorough inspection. Probably it will be a joint publication of the three groups leading the search of planets in the Alpha Centauri system. | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 15th October 2010, 3:40 am | |
| And if the planets at α Cen resemble those of Sol, they're below the detection limit for a while longer, too. At the moment, I see it as "the later, the better." A 1 Me planet is going to be more exciting than a 2 Me planet. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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tommi59 Jovian
Number of posts : 596 Age : 46 Location : Baile Atha Cliath Registration date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 15th October 2010, 8:44 am | |
| Exactly they can not afford for mistake not to be sure 100% of existence planet especially after cases gj 581 g,f and now gj 433 b,gj667Cb now distracted | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 15th October 2010, 5:34 pm | |
| - Sirius_Alpha wrote:
- And if the planets at α Cen resemble those of Sol, they're below the detection limit for a while longer, too. At the moment, I see it as "the later, the better." A 1 Me planet is going to be more exciting than a 2 Me planet.
That's definitely a point to bear in mind in all the excitement over finding various super-Earths (some of which are turning out to be less than secure). Finding an analogue of our own inner solar system is an extremely challenging task. At present the only system that looks vaguely like the inner planets of our solar system is PSR B1257+12: the other low-mass planetary systems (other than those detected via microlensing) contain worlds with extremely short orbital periods which indicate a history of significant migration that seems not to have occurred here. (That does raise the question of what the formation of our solar system and the pulsar planet system had in common that was not shared by, say, HD 10180 or 55 Cancri...) | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 6th January 2011, 6:18 pm | |
| Paper about HARPS detection efficiency considering the specific case of α Cen B. Figure 9 suggests the current observing strategy being used by HARPS would be sensitive only to planets more massive than about 5-10 times the Earth's mass in the habitable zone. ESPRESSO following an optimal strategy (and at a somewhat lower assumed stellar activity) would be able to detect planets over 1-2 times the Earth's mass in the habitable zone. Predictably, the detection capabilities are worst for periods close to 1 year. | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 22nd May 2011, 11:56 pm | |
| There is going to be an exoplanet meeting on May 27, from 9:00 am to 5:30 pm EDT, with live webcast. In the agenda is an Alpha Centauri update from Debra Fischer. Agenda (.pdf) Webcast feed _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 23rd May 2011, 1:52 am | |
| I'm going to be pessimistic and guess this is going to be about detection limits rather than any announcement of planet candidates... | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 23rd May 2011, 2:13 am | |
| I don't think that's an unreasonable stance in the slightest. Given the lack of a major press release, I think it's a pretty sure one. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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ciceron Planetary Embryo
Number of posts : 84 Age : 54 Location : Spain Registration date : 2008-04-08
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 23rd May 2011, 8:31 am | |
| Until now , no news about detections on Alpha were good news. Now , with observation time accumulated , good algorithms , etc , failure to detect anything increasily amouts to say there is nothing there to detect
Let's keep the hope. _________________ --- Caution. This post contains broken english inside. Handle with care.
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 23rd May 2011, 10:28 am | |
| - ciceron wrote:
- failure to detect anything increasily amouts to say there is nothing there to detect.
If a clone of Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars orbited α Cen A or B, we would not have detected them yet. When the detection limits start pushing down toward Lunar-mass objects in the habitable zone, then maybe the idea that nothing is there to detect will seem more reasonable. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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ciceron Planetary Embryo
Number of posts : 84 Age : 54 Location : Spain Registration date : 2008-04-08
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 23rd May 2011, 1:27 pm | |
| Well ,of course , we are not there yet, so there is some time to keep hope. Two to three years is the time margin i suspect is time to lose that hope.
That nothing has been detected thus far , is good news. _________________ --- Caution. This post contains broken english inside. Handle with care.
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exoplanet Planetesimal
Number of posts : 124 Location : here Registration date : 2008-06-16
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 27th May 2011, 8:08 am | |
| The Alpha Centauri update is no longer in the Agenda... | |
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exoplanet Planetesimal
Number of posts : 124 Location : here Registration date : 2008-06-16
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 27th May 2011, 12:34 pm | |
| Natalie Batalha on follow up of Kepler candidates: 288 stars selected for followup this year / 75 only with high-precision RV. | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 27th May 2011, 12:38 pm | |
| Yes that was quite interesting, especially the bit about changing the strategy to take advantage of the multi-planet systems. Also the bit about the stars being noisier than expected, so maybe not so many Earth-size candidates unless the mission is extended. | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 19th August 2011, 5:34 pm | |
| From the recent paper about the HARPS search for Earth-like planets in the habitable zone, it looks like they've got a paper specifically dedicated to Alpha Centauri B coming out fairly soon. They do note that of the 10 candidates listed in the paper (one of which is Alpha Centauri B), three of them currently show evidence for planets (82 Eridani, HD 85512 and HD 192310), so I don't think we should expect a planetary detection for now... | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 13th September 2011, 1:51 pm | |
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Galzi Planetary Embryo
Number of posts : 87 Age : 38 Location : Venetia et Histria Registration date : 2012-06-03
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 1st August 2012, 6:20 am | |
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Galzi Planetary Embryo
Number of posts : 87 Age : 38 Location : Venetia et Histria Registration date : 2012-06-03
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 16th October 2012, 6:28 pm | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 20th October 2012, 5:29 pm | |
| Planetary Society blog includes Debra Fischer's response. Apparently they're now matching the HARPS precision which is very good news, even aside from Alpha Centauri there's now capability to get independent confirmation of the various HARPS results. Given the location it doesn't do much for the longitude coverage (as far as I can tell), which means they'll have similar gaps in the observation times due to having daylight at the same time. | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 21st December 2012, 5:29 pm | |
| Detectability of Earth-like Planets in Circumstellar Habitable Zones of Binary Star Systems with Sun-like Components http://arxiv.org/abs/1212.4884Main example used here is Alpha Centauri. Finding habitable planets by astrometry is slightly easier for Alpha Centauri A than it is for B because of the wider orbit. Unfortunately... - Quote :
- Given the current observational facilities, enormous amounts of observing time would be required to achieve such precisions. If the α Centauri was a transiting system, however, a habitable planet could be detectable using current technologies. It seems that the detection of Earth-like planets in circumstellar habitable zones of binaries with Sun-like components via astrometry and radial velocity is still somewhat beyond our grasp, leaving photometry to be the only current option in this respect.
P.S. Oooh I've gone up a spectral type... how long until I get to supermassive black hole? | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 30th January 2013, 7:21 pm | |
| Debra Fischer Hunts for a Second Earth at Alpha Centauri http://www.planetary.org/multimedia/planetary-radio/show/2013/20130128-debra-fischer-alpha-centauri-exoplanet-search.htmlHighlights from the interview with Fischer. Upgrades to CHIRON instrumentation in Jun 2012. Precision dramatically improved with fibre optics. Standing "toe-to-toe" with HARPS team. HARPS was $10M, CHIRON was < $1M. Able to measure RV stability over two weeks is less than or about 50 cm/s. 35 cm/s nightly stability. May not be able to do much better, limited by CCD performance. Spectral lines are 4 px across, measuring variation on the order of 1/10,000th of a pixel. Fischer's team will aim for confirming Alf Cen Bb in the Spring of 2013. Rocky planets tend to come in multiplets, so additional planets are likely. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Galzi Planetary Embryo
Number of posts : 87 Age : 38 Location : Venetia et Histria Registration date : 2012-06-03
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 1st February 2013, 1:57 pm | |
| - Sirius_Alpha wrote:
- Fischer's team will aim for confirming Alf Cen Bb in the Spring of 2013.
An indipendent confirmation of such a difficult detection will be great. On the other end we haven't seen so far any additional studies carried out on the HARPS dataset. So far no alternative analysis published confirming or rejecting the find. I wonder if it's a good or bad sign.. | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 2nd April 2013, 8:16 pm | |
| Implications of the spectroscopic abundances in α Centauri A and B http://arxiv.org/abs/1304.0450 - Quote :
- ...Given the trends seen when analyzing the refractory abundances [X/Fe] with condensation temperature, we find it possible that {\alpha} Centauri A may host a yet undiscovered planet.
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 7th July 2013, 10:24 pm | |
| From Sara Seager's facebook page. - Quote :
- Moments ago the Hubble Space Telescope has turned to observe Alpha Centauri B, checking to see if the Earth-mass planet Alpha Cen B b might show transits. Brice-Olivier Demory is leading our team effort with Hubble, (and we are joined by another group who will independently analyze the same data.) Let's keep our fingers crossed that nature put a transiting Earth-mass planet around our nearest sun-like star. And, incidentally, we're in the Swiss Alps, on a trip also organized by Brice. The Hubble data will be in our hands couple of weeks from now and it will take another month or so to analyze the data. Hubble doesn't usually observe such a bright object!
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tommi59 Jovian
Number of posts : 596 Age : 46 Location : Baile Atha Cliath Registration date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 8th July 2013, 11:47 am | |
| Would be nice.I do not expect radius larger than 1.15 earth rather 0.95-1.What is transit probability? | |
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