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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 8th July 2013, 5:15 pm | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 8th July 2013, 8:48 pm | |
| There's the geometric probability which can be pretty low and ignores the mass distribution of planets which skews the transit probability favourably toward low RV-mass planets -- see this paper), and furthermore if the planet is roughly coplanar with the star system (which is tilted somewhat edge-on), the odds increase dramatically. I would not be as pessimistic as 10-30%... but 30% is still great odds. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 15th October 2013, 1:05 pm | |
| Alpha Centauri planet hunt update. http://www.planetary.org/blogs/bruce-betts/20130828-alpha-centauri-planet-hunt.htmlFrom Debra Fischer - Quote :
- In May, we observed Alpha Cen B almost every night. The new tip-tilt system brought more photons into the FINDS fiber - on single stars we measured an efficiency improvement of about 8%. Unfortunately, even with the improved guiding, the contamination from Alpha Cen A was significant on several of our nights when there was poor seeing. I've spoken with Xavier Dumusque on the Geneva team and they have similar results with the HARPS data. We are now revising our analysis code to see if we can model out this contamination. Fingers crossed, we'll have some results soon.
The search for true Earth analogs faces several challenges and one of them is identification and removal of signals on the surface of the star. Stars are boiling cauldrons of plasma threaded with magnetic fields. The photospheres of the stars have spots, flares, granulation, pulsations and other flows that are imprinted in the stellar spectrum and obscure tiny signals from small rocky worlds.
To understand these sources of stellar noise, we are using CHIRON on other stars, including Tau Ceti and Epsilon Eridani, two stars that Frank Drake observed with Project Ozma. Tau Ceti is a favorite of Doppler planet hunters because the stellar velocities are so constant... or are they? A recent analysis by Tuomi et al. suggests that low amplitude signals may be embedded in the data. We are now able to check that result.
Epsilon Eridani is a more challenging star with spots that mimic Doppler velocity signals. We are writing up our results for that star now - by luck, we caught the star during a stretch when it had large persistent spots; this data set is a training ground for my students who are writing computer algorithms to identify and de-correlate stellar noise from Doppler data. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 15th October 2013, 4:21 pm | |
| It's not very good news... | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 19th March 2014, 8:37 pm | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 24th July 2014, 9:03 pm | |
| Searching for Earth-mass planets around α Centauri: precise radial velocities from contaminated spectra http://arxiv.org/abs/1407.6415 - Quote :
- This work is part of an ongoing project which aims to detect terrestrial planets in our neighbouring star system α Centauri using the Doppler method. Owing to the small angular separation between the two components of the α Cen AB binary system, the observations will to some extent be contaminated with light coming from the other star. We are accurately determining the amount of contamination for every observation by measuring the relative strengths of the H-α and NaD lines. Furthermore, we have developed a modified version of a well established Doppler code that is modelling the observations using two stellar templates simultaneously. With this method we can significantly reduce the scatter of the radial velocity measurements due to spectral cross-contamination and hence increase our chances of detecting the tiny signature caused by potential Earth-mass planets. After correcting for the contamination we achieve radial velocity precision of ∼2.5ms −1 for a given night of observations. We have also applied this new Doppler code to four southern double-lined spectroscopic binary systems (HR159, HR913, HR7578, HD181958) and have successfully recovered radial velocities for both components simultaneously.
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Shellface Neptune-Mass
Number of posts : 283 Location : g2 17.∞ 997 t Registration date : 2013-02-14
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 24th July 2014, 9:17 pm | |
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- We are currently in the process of reducing all ∼47000 observations of the two stars with the method described above and expect that we can scrutinize the reality of the putative planet in a 3.24-d orbit around α Cen B once we have a full set of corrected RVs.
HYPE(though, uh, good luck performing a proper analysis without activity indicators. Look at what Dumusque et al. had to trawl through!) (Also, a first deep look into the RVs of the primary! HYPE) | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 15th October 2014, 8:31 pm | |
| Debra Fischer had an interview with Planetary Radio about the laser comb calibrator. Starts at around 8:00. http://www.planetary.org/multimedia/planetary-radio/show/2014/1014-yales-debra-fischer-and-the-search-for-new-worlds.htmlAlpha Centauri observations are currently on hold until 2016 due to their proximity. EXPRESS is maybe two or three years from first light. CHIRON comissioning. Reached half-metre per second precision, but new signals started appearing. Likely caused by motion of gas in the star. Two, almost three year dataset achieved for three stars with "exciting discoveries in astrophysics" including how to get higher precisions. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 27th January 2015, 1:25 pm | |
| http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2015/01/27/planet-hunters-bet-big-on-a-small-telescope-to-image-alien-earths/According to Ruslan Belikov and Eduardo Bendek, two research scientists at NASA’s Ames Research Center in California, a 45-kilogram space telescope with a 30-to-45-centimeter mirror would be sufficient to deliver images of rocky planets in the habitable zones of either Alpha Centauri A or B. That’s smaller than some of the telescopes you can buy on Amazon.com, though you can’t purchase a planet-imaging space observatory off-the-shelf quite yet. Belikov, Bendek, and their collaborators call the concept ACESat – the Alpha Centauri Exoplanet Satellite – and have submitted it to NASA in response to the agency’s October 2014 call for proposals for Small Explorer missions, which have budgets capped at $175 million. If selected, the mission would be ready to launch no later than the end of 2020 | |
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 14th August 2015, 2:06 pm | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 12th October 2015, 5:39 pm | |
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Edasich dK star
Number of posts : 2285 Location : Tau Ceti g - Mid Latitudes Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 13th October 2015, 9:33 am | |
| Let's just wait for some results. So far poor constraints on actual presence of inner planet but hints of a possible transiting second one... | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 9th January 2016, 1:58 pm | |
| New orbit determination for the Alpha Centauri AB binary, that now seems to be in line with the asteroseimology results for the stellar masses. The parallax is consistent with the original version of the Hipparcos catalogue but not with the new revision. Pourbaix & Boffin "Parallax and masses of α Centauri revisited" http://arxiv.org/abs/1601.01636 | |
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 11th January 2016, 5:49 pm | |
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Shellface Neptune-Mass
Number of posts : 283 Location : g2 17.∞ 997 t Registration date : 2013-02-14
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 26th July 2016, 8:10 pm | |
| In a fairly unrelated paper by Dumusque lies a notable note: - Quote :
- We note, however, that the 50 cm s-1 signal claimed as a planet at the time is probably an artifact that is due to sampling and the model used to mitigate stellar signals (Rajpaul et al. 2016)
(Seems the referred paper was not mentioned here, but it is quite important) Since Dumusque was the lead author of the discovery paper for Alpha Cen Bb, It would seem that the HARPS team has changed footing. Certainly, this is no fault of theirs; this was the first attempt to deal with such complex data, and mistakes are very possible. At this point, I would say it would be reasonable to no longer consider the 3.24-d planet as valid. It remains to be seen whether Alpha Centauri hosts any (detectable) planets, Proxima included. | |
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tommi59 Jovian
Number of posts : 596 Age : 46 Location : Baile Atha Cliath Registration date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 27th July 2016, 2:50 am | |
| Nevertheless is need to establish period of putative transiting planet around star B | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 29th July 2016, 5:38 pm | |
| Well at the time the Rajpaul et al. paper was published, the statements from Dumusque in the National Geographic news story indicated that they basically agreed with the findings. - Quote :
- Even the team that originally reported the planet agrees. “This is really good work,” said Xavier Dumusque of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. “We are not 100 percent sure, but probably the planet is not there.”
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 20th October 2016, 1:53 pm | |
| http://www.eso.org/public/unitedkingdom/announcements/ann16075/?langA rare opportunity for planet hunting in Alpha Centauri A predicted for 2028« …One of the most exciting alignments predicted by this study is between the more massive star in the Alpha Centauri pair, named Alpha Centauri A, and a distant background star — probably a red giant — nicknamed S5. In May 2028, there is a strong chance that the light from S5 will create an Einstein ring around Alpha Centauri A, observable with ESO’s telescopes… » | |
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tommi59 Jovian
Number of posts : 596 Age : 46 Location : Baile Atha Cliath Registration date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 21st October 2016, 4:11 am | |
| Well in 2028 we will know all about this 3 star system and their planets | |
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 9th January 2017, 12:42 pm | |
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 13th September 2017, 4:09 pm | |
| http://spaceref.com/exoplanets/boldlygo-institute-and-nasa-sign-space-act-agreement-for-joint-cooperation-on-project-blue-mission.htmlBoldlyGo Institute and NASA Sign Space Act Agreement for Joint Cooperation on Project Blue MissionThe BoldlyGo Institute (BoldlyGo) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) have signed a Space Act Agreement to cooperate on "Project Blue," a mission to search for potentially habitable Earth-size planets in the Alpha Centauri system using a specially designed space telescope
(…) The telescope will take 3-4 years to construct and launch. Once in orbit, Project Blue will perform an intensive two-year study of Alpha Centauri -- the closest star system to Earth -- with the goal of identifying and capturing a "pale blue dot" image of an Earth-size exoplanet in the habitable zone of the Alpha Centauri A and B stars. | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 20th November 2017, 9:44 am | |
| Zhao et al. "Planet Detectability in the Alpha Centauri System" https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.06320Current detection limits for planets in the HZ around the stars are m sin i of 53 Earth masses (α Cen A), 8.4 Earth masses (α Cen B) and 0.47 Earth masses (Proxima), though this is in the best case scenario of white noise. For red noise, the detection limits increase. The apparent separation of the A and B stars should allow for high precision RV measurements from 2019–2020. | |
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 29th March 2018, 3:16 am | |
| http://eso.org/public/blog/shooting-for-the-stars/ESO recently joined the search for habitable worlds around other stars in collaboration with the Breakthrough Initiatives, a large-scale science programme to search for extraterrestrial intelligence. We chatted to Markus Kasper, ESO exoplanet expert, to learn more. | |
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 12th April 2018, 3:51 am | |
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Led_Zep SuperJovian
Number of posts : 721 Location : France Registration date : 2011-09-09
| Subject: Re: Alpha Centauri, the hunt for planets. 10th June 2019, 2:51 pm | |
| - Led_Zep wrote:
- http://eso.org/public/blog/shooting-for-the-stars/
ESO recently joined the search for habitable worlds around other stars in collaboration with the Breakthrough Initiatives, a large-scale science programme to search for extraterrestrial intelligence. We chatted to Markus Kasper, ESO exoplanet expert, to learn more. https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1911/Newly-built planet-finding instrument installed on Very Large Telescope, Chile, begins 100-hour observation of nearby stars Alpha Centauri A and B, aiming to be first to directly image a habitable exoplanet Breakthrough Watch, the global astronomical program looking for Earth-like planets around nearby stars, and the European Southern Observatory (ESO), Europe’s foremost intergovernmental astronomical organisation, today announced “first light” on a newly-built planet-finding instrument at ESO’s Very Large Telescope in the Atacama Desert, Chile. The instrument, called NEAR (Near Earths in the AlphaCen Region), is designed to hunt for exoplanets in our neighbouring star system, Alpha Centauri, within the “habitable zones” of its two Sun-like stars, where water could potentially exist in liquid form. (...) Since 23 May ESO’s astronomers at ESO’s Very Large Telescope (VLT) have been conducting a ten-day observing run to establish the presence or absence of one or more planets in the star system. Observations will conclude tomorrow, 11 June. Planets in the system (twice the size of Earth or bigger), would be detectable with the upgraded instrumentation. The near- to thermal-infrared range is significant as it corresponds to the heat emitted by a candidate planet, and so enables astronomers to determine whether the planet’s temperature allows liquid water. | |
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