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Edasich dK star
Number of posts : 2285 Location : Tau Ceti g - Mid Latitudes Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Planetary companions around 42 Draconis and HD 139357 20th March 2009, 6:09 am | |
| Waiting for discovery paper, here I post from EPE - Quote :
DOELINGER M., HATZES A., PASQUINI L., GUENTHER E., HARTMANN M. & GIRARDI L. , 2009 (update : 20 March 2009)
Planetary companion candidates around the K giant stars 42 Draconis and HD 139357 Astron. & Astrophys. , - , - accepted | |
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Michael Johne Micrometeorite
Number of posts : 14 Age : 41 Location : Bremen, Germany Registration date : 2008-06-16
| Subject: Re: Planetary companions around 42 Draconis and HD 139357 23rd March 2009, 3:28 am | |
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Edasich dK star
Number of posts : 2285 Location : Tau Ceti g - Mid Latitudes Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: Planetary companions around 42 Draconis and HD 139357 23rd March 2009, 6:13 am | |
| Thanks, Michael. I'm noticing a little delay between posting the paper link at EPE and making the "Note for star...." page. However 42 Draconis really looks like an old Sun close to die. | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Planetary companions around 42 Draconis and HD 139357 23rd March 2009, 5:14 pm | |
| Hmm 42 Dra b would have been located quite close to the main sequence habitable zone. Not that it really matters so much for a gas giant. And the system is very low metallicity: [Fe/H] = -0.46, i.e. 35% solar. | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Planetary companions around 42 Draconis and HD 139357 23rd March 2009, 8:18 pm | |
| Perhaps any hypothetical moons of 42 Dra b may have been habitable.
Would a system with low metallicity crank out more moons than a system with high metallicity? The trend so far favors gas planets around high-metallicity stars, and low-mass planets around metal-poor stars.
That's probably a topic for another thread though. And needless to say, there isn't a lot of data points concerning the types of moons around various exoplanets. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Planetary companions around 42 Draconis and HD 139357 24th March 2009, 3:29 pm | |
| Indeed. There are several important questions that need to be answered (of which the issue of formation is just one) before I'm convinced by the habitable moon idea. | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Planetary companions around 42 Draconis and HD 139357 22nd March 2022, 4:06 pm | |
| Looks like there are reasons to doubt the existence of 42 Draconis b... Döllinger & Hartmann, "A Sanity Check for Planets around Evolved Stars" https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2021ApJS..256...10D/abstract - Quote :
- One hypothesis for the large scatter of the planet frequency of evolved stars might be false positives, i.e., some RV variations of K giants are actually due to intrinsic stellar variability. This assumption is based on additional RV measurements for 42 Dra. This giant star, a member of 62 K giants investigated by Döllinger (2008) within the TOPS program, showed RV variations with a period of 479.1 days consistent with the presence of a substellar companion with a minimum mass of 3.9 MJup (Döllinger et al. 2009a). Continued RV measurements, however, are inconsistent with the published planet orbit because the RV amplitude decreased by a factor of about 4, casting serious doubt on the existence of 42 Dra b. However, we cannot exclude a two-planet solution. We suggest that the variable RV signal is very likely due to a yet unknown phenomenon that is intrinsic to the star, resistant to the current standard activity indicators and might be common among evolved stars. These stars have extended atmospheres as well as deep convection zones. Our knowledge about the structure and activity of giants is very limited. Consequently, intrinsic stellar jitter can be caused by rotational modulation (e.g., spots) and/or known short-term and possibly long-period oscillations.
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Edasich dK star
Number of posts : 2285 Location : Tau Ceti g - Mid Latitudes Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: Planetary companions around 42 Draconis and HD 139357 23rd March 2022, 2:22 pm | |
| And IAU has given it the name Orbitar...
Instead there's nothing orbiting there, seemingly. | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Planetary companions around 42 Draconis and HD 139357 23rd March 2022, 4:59 pm | |
| - Edasich wrote:
- And IAU has given it the name Orbitar...
Instead there's nothing orbiting there, seemingly. Yeah, can't say this was my favourite exoplanet name. | |
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