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Stalker Jovian
Number of posts : 540 Age : 33 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-06-16
| Subject: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 3:47 pm | |
| A nice paper of Dr. Ballard has been accepted and for publication and should appear on astro-ph on Tue 7 Sep. _________________ | |
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Borislav Jovian
Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2008-11-12
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 4:16 pm | |
| Wow! Finally. And where information? There will be a press conference by NASA? | |
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tommi59 Jovian
Number of posts : 596 Age : 46 Location : Baile Atha Cliath Registration date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 4:47 pm | |
| This is super earth like 2 years ago??where did you get this information any link?? where i can read about it?? | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 4:54 pm | |
| Says so on the EPOXI facebook page. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Stalker Jovian
Number of posts : 540 Age : 33 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-06-16
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 5:09 pm | |
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Borislav Jovian
Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2008-11-12
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 5:15 pm | |
| Thank you for your answers. That means you, too, Stalker was born in Siberia. I'm from Kemerovo. In general the last few weeks are very rich in exoplanets. And the October - November, hope will publish many discoveries of Kepler. | |
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 5:34 pm | |
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tommi59 Jovian
Number of posts : 596 Age : 46 Location : Baile Atha Cliath Registration date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 5:51 pm | |
| Hmm very interesting I am curious about mass this planet and distance from star. | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 5:56 pm | |
| "unter-Earth" _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Borislav Jovian
Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2008-11-12
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 5:57 pm | |
| I think this is the same candidate. http://arxiv.org/abs/0909.2875 - Quote :
- 4.1. Best Candidate Transit Signal
We find no transit signals for GJ 436c at the significance limit set by 2=250. We present our best candidate here, which corresponds to a planet with radius 1.04 R and period 8.42 days. The improvement in the 2 over the null hypothesis is 170. We investigate the possibility of signal suppression by masking these suspected transit points from the points used to create the 2D spline, and recreating the spline surface. We find that the candidate transit depth is unaltered, indicating that these points are well-sampled on the CCD. In Figure 8, we show the phased and binned best candidate signal, as well as the two observed candidate transit events separately. The gap in the middle of the first event is due to the star wandering off the bottom edge of the CCD for a period of about an hour. In general, a period of about 9 days. | |
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Borislav Jovian
Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2008-11-12
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 6:14 pm | |
| The most interesting question - it was to measure the mass? After the January observations Spitzer has been more than 6 months. It is a pity that in the Keck Observatory publish logs of observations, only with a lag of 18 months. https://koa.ipac.caltech.edu/available_date.html | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 6:19 pm | |
| If transit timing variations can be positively detected, the mass can be measured through that. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Borislav Jovian
Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2008-11-12
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 6:28 pm | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 6:38 pm | |
| Could be for additional, high-accuracy TTV measurements. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Borislav Jovian
Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2008-11-12
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 7:45 pm | |
| In general, if you take these three observation windows GJ436:
1) 2010-01-28 06:54:44.0 - 2010-01-29 00:45:01.2
2) 2010-06-23 17:42:27.0 - 2010-06-23 23:36:32.7
3) 2010-06-29 00:55:18.3 - 2010-06-29 06:49:21.3
In the period of 8.42 days get 1 and 3 windows. Second windows out of calculations.
Please recheck. | |
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Borislav Jovian
Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2008-11-12
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 7:58 pm | |
| In addition to the 1 and 3 window Spitzer observed for 2 channel (4.5 micron), in 2 window - 1 channel (3.6 microns). | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 4th September 2010, 8:09 pm | |
| I think you're right. The first and third windows are ~18 orbital periods apart. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Edasich dK star
Number of posts : 2288 Location : Tau Ceti g - Mid Latitudes Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 5th September 2010, 4:29 am | |
| Uhm 0.75 Earth radii would quite beat both CoRoT and Kepler. Whan they state "Earth-like", I think they refer to composition rather orbital location. Anyway let's wait for Sep 7. | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 5th September 2010, 8:11 am | |
| If indeed it has a period of 8.42 d, the planet will get about 9 times the insolation that Earth does. Clearly too hot to be habitable. _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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tommi59 Jovian
Number of posts : 596 Age : 46 Location : Baile Atha Cliath Registration date : 2010-07-31
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 5th September 2010, 8:54 am | |
| It is obvious habitable zone around gj 436 star is from 0.12 AU(high albedo) to 0.3AU(low albedo,dense atmosphere).Planet c Will be very hot.
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Lazarus dF star
Number of posts : 3337 Registration date : 2008-06-12
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 5th September 2010, 9:52 am | |
| As I understand it, the liquid water habitable zone around red dwarfs occurs for lower insolation values than for solar type stars because Rayleigh scattering is less efficient for longer wavelengths, plus there are various absorption features in the spectra of various atmospheric constituents. This results in a decrease in the albedo of the planet. | |
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Edasich dK star
Number of posts : 2288 Location : Tau Ceti g - Mid Latitudes Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 5th September 2010, 3:00 pm | |
| - Lazarus wrote:
- As I understand it, the liquid water habitable zone around red dwarfs occurs for lower insolation values than for solar type stars because Rayleigh scattering is less efficient for longer wavelengths, plus there are various absorption features in the spectra of various atmospheric constituents. This results in a decrease in the albedo of the planet.
Interesting point. But likely we may deal with a planet within equivalent orbital separation of Mercury. Maybe something more like a "more-extreme-Venus"...a Phosphorian planet as in Dollan's ArcBuilder Fantasy gets concrete | |
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Borislav Jovian
Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2008-11-12
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 6th September 2010, 2:16 am | |
| So, what should already be at least 5 observed transits - two EPOXI in the visible band, a Spitzer at 8 micron, and the two Spitzer observation at 4.5 microns. | |
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Sirius_Alpha Admin
Number of posts : 4320 Location : Earth Registration date : 2008-04-06
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 6th September 2010, 8:09 am | |
| You know... it could be that the paper will say something like this.
"After using Spitzer 4.5 and 8 µm photometry during the predicted transit times of the planet, we rule out additional transiting planets with radii > 0.75 RE with 3σ confidence. Furthermore, we find no evidence of transit timing variations for Gliese 436 b." _________________ Caps Lock: Cruise control for 'Cool'!
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Borislav Jovian
Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2008-11-12
| Subject: Re: Gliese 436 c 6th September 2010, 8:35 am | |
| It is possible of course. This may explain why no press conference, NASA, and the only article in the Archiv.org. | |
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